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10 Misconceptions about Biblical Womanhood

By: Bethany Beal

I was twenty-two years old and totally taken off guard by Lacy’s blatant attacks on my beliefs. Apparently, she had heard about my perspectives and beliefs on biblical womanhood and was not impressed.

In fact, offended/annoyed would be the right way to describe her feelings towards me at that time.

During this back and forth “debate” of sorts, I was extremely uncomfortable.

I wasn’t exactly sure how to counter Lacy’s arguments and I was a little insecure about my stance on Scripture and biblical womanhood.

I felt like Lacy was completely demeaning and attacking biblical womanhood and I felt at a loss for words to defend what I believed.

Looking back on that conversation, I now realize that Lacy was buying into almost all 10 of these misconceptions about biblical womanhood. Unfortunately, I was really unequipped to back up my beliefs and Lacy left no better off than where she had started.

Thankfully, that convo inspired me to dig deeper and learn how to backup what I believe is true about biblical womanhood.

My prayer is that these 10 common misconceptions about biblical womanhood will open your eyes to the truth and equip you to better share truth with young women and women around you.

10 Misconceptions About Biblical Womanhood:

1. Biblical womanhood is NOT about being a doormat

This is one of the most popular and common misconceptions you will hear when it comes to this topic. Despite its popularity, it simply isn’t supported by Scripture. Absolutely nowhere in the Bible will you find God encouraging a “doormat” mentality amongst men or women. Think of Esther, Rahab, Ruth, Mary (the mother of Jesus), Abigail and many more.

These women are held up to us as examples of godly, beautiful, biblical women and they are anything but doormats. They are smart, hardworking, talented, gifted and gutsy women all striving to honor God with their lives.

In a nutshell…

Esther – Approaches the King unannounced and risks her life to save the Jews.

Rahab – A former prostitute gives her Life to God and helps the Israelites conquer the city.

Ruth – Selflessly follows her mother in law to a foreign land and works hard to support her.

Mary – Puts her life at risk by accepting the dangerous responsibility of bringing Jesus into the world.

Abigail – Wisely negotiates with David and saves her husband from being killed.

2. Biblical womanhood is NOT about being a wimp

The more I learn about God defined womanhood the more I realize it takes a seriously strong woman to live it out. It’s easy to go with the flow and drift with the cultural current. It’s hard to resist the trends and the modern ideas for womanhood and stick to God’s word and His truth.

Women who truly live out biblical womanhood are really some of the bravest and strongest I know. They are willing to swim against the current and stand alone. Biblical womanhood isn’t for the faint of heart or wimpy. No. Biblical womanhood is for brave women who are willing to fight for truth and embrace God’s Word even when it’s hard.

3. Biblical womanhood is NOT about being less than a man

Whoever started this whole notion that women are “less than men” obviously didn’t read the Bible. The Bible absolutely and completely supports the idea that men and women are created equal. Neither one is more valuable. They are equally valuable but purposely different.

God created man and woman to each fulfill a unique purpose on earth. Different doesn’t mean “less than.” I challenge you to search Scripture and see how God talks about women. I also challenge you to look through the New Testament and notice the way Jesus treated women. He literally went against the cultural norm and treated women with care and respect. He actually spoke to them and treated them with value.

4. Biblical womanhood is NOT about throwing your brain away

One of the reasons Kristen and I wrote Girl Defined: God’s Radical Design for Beauty, Femininity, and Identity was to show women the immense value and purpose they have. There have been many misconceptions about biblical womanhood from Christians and non-Christians alike.

In Girl Defined Kristen and I take you into the lives of four different women, in different seasons of life, each using their lives to live out biblical womanhood and glorify God. In no way have these women checked their brains at the door.

If you are truly living your life with a Christ-centered purpose and eternal mindset, you will need all the brains you can get.

5. Biblical womanhood is NOT about staying at home

Sadly, in our day and age, Christian women have gone to one of two extremes. 1. They idolize the home and assume that if they are inside of the home they are honoring God. 2. They despise the home and assume if they are outside of the home they are successful.

Neither is the right option. We need to get our hearts right and remember the bigger purpose for why we do what we do. The home is hugely important, but, it’s not the home that matters most. It’s the people within the home. It’s taking care of the home to bless the family. It’s using the home to build relationships. It’s inviting people inside to foster community. It’s using the home as a tool to honor and glorify God.

Proverbs 31:10-31 gives us a great picture of how a home can be used in a beautiful way.

6. Biblical womanhood is NOT about just getting married

I’ve seen some incredibly beautiful marriages and I’ve seen a lot of awful ones. I’ve seen girls idolize marriage as the be all and end all and I’ve seen girls reject and embrace total independence from men. Both are wrong mindsets.

We as Christian girls must remember that we are here on a Kingdom mission. God has given us His instruction manual on how we as women can best honor Him. God created marriage as a means for us to better serve Him as a team. He created it for companionship, for reproducing, for pleasure, and as a way for us to represent the gospel. I really encourage you gals to remember that marriage is beautiful, but, the purpose of marriage is to point to Someone greater.

7. Biblical womanhood is NOT about dressing old-fashioned

Drabby clothes, no makeup, scraggly hair, and bad breath. That may be the image some of you think of when you hear the words “biblical womanhood.” I’ve got great news for you gals, that’s a total misconception.

Some of the godliest, most Christ-centered, women I know are also some of the most beautiful. Being a biblical woman isn’t about being old fashioned. Biblical womanhood is about dressing in the way that best represents and honors the purity and holiness of Christ. I seriously encourage you to check out this video on modesty that my sisters and I created. Project Modesty Video

8. Biblical womanhood is NOT about living a boring life

Personal confession time. The more that I’ve strived to live out biblical womanhood, the more exciting my life has become. Seriously, God is full of amazing surprises and living for Him is one adventurous journey.

Living as a biblical woman provides a bigger and greater vision for life. Everything takes on a greater purpose. Everything becomes about the Kingdom. Think about it…

Instead of just going to the grocery store and grabbing groceries, you have the opportunity to build relationships and share the hope and purpose of the gospel.

Instead of just raising kids to grow up and become independent, you have the care of souls and are given the privilege to disciple them.

Life begins to take on a whole new meaning when you live in light of Christ and the gospel.

9. Biblical womanhood is NOT about just doing dishes and scrubbing toilets

Y’all. Really? What even? Yes, these are super important daily tasks that need to be done (to the glory of God of course), but really? Biblical womanhood is about so much more than this. Remember that your living space is a tool for you to nurture relationships, to reproduce life (physically and spiritually), and to care for those around you.

Scrub those toilets and wash those dishes, but, don’t lose sight of the “why” behind the scrubbing. Scrub as a means to love, bless, and disciple those God has placed in your sphere of influence.

10. Biblical womanhood is NOT about you

All in all, we just need to take our eyes off of ourselves. Life isn’t about us. Biblical womanhood isn’t about is. Biblical manhood isn’t about us. The more Christ becomes greater in our eyes (and we become less), the easier this topic will seem.

We need to remove ourselves from the “highest of highs” and remember that it’s all about Christ.

Biblical womanhood is about living all in for Christ and using your one life to make an impact for eternity. It’s about making disciples, sharing the gospel, loving the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, following God’s Word, and doing your best to reflect Christ as a female.

Wrapping it up…

Which of these common misconceptions have you been deceived by?

How does God’s Word debunk the lies you’ve believed about biblical womanhood?

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125 Responses to 10 Misconceptions about Biblical Womanhood

  1. Shanae B says:

    Great list!!! I especially like #4 and #10! Godly woman are totally not weak or brainless, I’d also add not brainwashed. There is totally a look out for number one mentality for both men and women in the world today. Thanks for posting this!

  2. Sandy S says:

    “Whoever started this whole notion that women are “less than men” obviously didn’t read the Bible.” Are you serious? You clearly have not read your bible.

    “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (I Corinthians 11:3)
    “For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.” (I Corinthians 11:8-9)
    “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” (I Corinthians 14:34-35)
    “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11-14)
    “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)

    If this doesn’t prove that the bible treats women as less than men, I don’t know what does.

    • GirlDefined says:

      Hey sandy, if you pull out specific verses and only look at those verses out of the context of the full passage and outside of the full story of Scripture, you might have a negative perspective. But, if view women through the full story of the Bible (its one Full complete story of God) you will see the way God highly cherishes and values women. For example, you quoted Ephesians 5:22-24 and stopped before the part about men…. look at the verses that come right after that

      “25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband..”

      When you really dig into the bigger picture and look who men reflect and who women reflect (Christ and the church) you see that women are actually Highly valued. Husbands are called to reflect Jesus! What did Jesus do? He died for the church.

      Consider looking at the full picture as you think about those verses…

      • Not Telling says:

        Dear Bethany and Kristen, how do you know which verses to follow and which ones are just taken out of context?

        • TLC says:

          “You have probably heard this joke: God created man and said, “I can do better than that,” and He created woman. gender balance

          While you might laugh, I hope you see that this joke isn’t true. God did exactly what He intended to do—He created male and female, and He declared the idea of two genders to be very good.

          You have probably heard another untruth: Equality means females must do the same thing as males.

          Two things do not have to be the same to be equal. Red and green are equally colors, but they are different.

          God created male and female, and He created them equally in His image. However He gave them different functions in His kingdom. These functions are equally valuable.

          Does this sound familiar?

          The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are equal.
          Each person of the Trinity has a different function in accomplishing our redemption.
          These different functions have the same purpose—to praise the Triune God’s glorious grace.
          There is equality in being, difference in function, and unity in purpose.
          The same is true for us because we were created in the likeness of the Triune God.

          Men and women are equal because we are both created in God’s image.
          We were designed for different functions.
          We were created for the same purpose: God’s glory.
          There is equality in being, difference in function, and unity in purpose.
          It’s nonsense to say that God the Father must die on the cross in order to be as important as the Son, and it is nonsense to say that women must do the same things as men in order to be as important.

          Men and women are different, but our differences are not meant to divide us—and they won’t if we have the same purpose. The problem is when our purpose is to live for our own glory rather than God’s glory.

          God’s plan is for men and women to live in harmony and to praise Him together. We are not to compete and criticize. We are to value our differences. We are to encourage and help each other glorify God.”

        • TLC says:

          Sorry this was for everyone here….

        • Shanae B says:

          Read this whole Bible and have an authentic relationship with God.

      • Sandy S says:

        So in those verses, husbands are compared to Christ, and wives to the church. Do you think Christ and the church are equal in value? And what would you say about all the other verses? Am I missing the context on the other ones as well? Don’t you think God could’ve been a little more clear if he wanted us to know that women and men have the same value?

      • Laura says:

        But what about the other verses? Especially that women should keep silent and not speak/teach. Ouch. What context could possibly justify that? Curious to hear your take.

      • TLC says:

        Just thought this was cool Kristen and Bethany!!! My sister and I are both 2 years apart as well! I love how close you both are! I pray that God will continue to help me have a good relationship with my sis!

  3. Bella D. says:

    This is a great post! I loved it! It really puts a lot of things into perspective for me, and made me realize that yes, we *are* changing the world! One woman at a time, we’re opening the eyes of other women to the liberation of God’s boundaries for His lovely creation, Woman.

  4. Suzanne F says:

    Love this post! So true, so real!

  5. Collin Paylor says:

    your right, biblical womanhood is about being your father/husbands personal object. your ignorance of basic christian theology is telling

    • Livingproof says:

      I’m sorry where do you get your info? I didn’t see one thing about being an personal object for you father/husbands. Before we start trying to find faults or anything else of the sort we need to check our motives!

      • Collin Paylor says:

        Titus 2:3-5, 1 Timothy 2:11-15, Genesis 2:18, proverbs 12:4, 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, colossians 13:18. Need I go on

        • Shanae B says:

          You have an extremely false understanding of these verses. You might be part of a cult. Also Colossians only has 4 chapters.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Fun fact, I’m an atheist I don’t believe in any of this hogwash, another fun fact, looking at the Bible and giving it a literal interpretation [you know like the loud religious people are] isn’t any sort of false understanding, it’s just reading it and telling you about it. Sorry but I’m kinda above reproach on this one

          • nazra7 says:

            @Collin Paylor I was referring to the stability of family structures due to Christian influences, not how women were treated economically and politically by the socioeconomic structure at the time (which, by the way was not how they were usually treated at home, but there were issues of domestic violence since men just can’t calm down sometimes, also there’s MGTOW, which is not Christian at all, that has plagued our society’s women and now is making a large come back unfortunately).

            Yes, of course liberalism opened up more opportunity to women in the economy and political system which is why I still like many things liberalism has stood for, but it seems some liberals are still not satisfied and are now instead to force women into the anti-feminimity, pro single, lgbt-only, anti-Christian, anti-Conservative way of thinking that is so often expressed by the likes of Anita Sarkeesian, as they say: “you’re endangering women all over the world by wearing pink”, for example. I’m sure those people would love to throw women in prison for something so trivial, you shouldn’t find that in a Christian society, if you did its obviously not Christ-like…

            But what we’re seeing come from the left today looks a lot like the masculinization of women (and the feminization of men). I guess they just like everything backwards? I can’t get behind that when that’s the only way they want things to be. Neither should you because its oppressive to feminine women.

          • nazra7 says:

            I think the world was as close to a utopian-like state as we’ve ever gotten in the 1990s to early 2000s. Not because everything was perfect, yes we had the Bush-Wars, ect…. But things really took a turn for the worse sometime after 2010, and I don’t think its all Barrack Obama’s fault of course, that’s extremely narrow-sighted. To be honest, I believe its just the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy, but if that’s true then I wish atheists and liberals could see they’re being pushed onto the wrong side of that conflict between the Lord Jesus Christ and the Babylonian Goddess Isis. Isis is giving her kingdom to the beast, Satan, willingly… And that’s exactly what looks like is going on, straight out of Revelation.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Well Jesus Christ was supposed to come back BEFORE the death of the Paul, guess what it never happened. To claim that the 2000s were as near a utopian state is a poor choice in time, now current Denmark is one of the happiest places on earth, so I’d imagine that they are the closest thing to a utopia. The only reason why you think that 70% to 80% of the US population is being persecuted is because of your oh so apparent persecution kink, Woe is me, Woe is me, Wow is me for doing the right thing. That coupled with your obvious confirmation bias and religious brain washing makes you think such ridiculous things. If you didn’t have those 3 biases in your life you wouldn’t believe in such hogwash. Also your condesention towards literally any other viewpoint is showing.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            If you actually researched the issue you would realize that Anita sarkessian is just a vocal minority whose shouting should be ignored because it holds no value. The purpose of feminism was to free women from oppression and give them equal rights with men, something the Bible would heavily disagree with. My point still stands that the bible is largely anti woman

          • Abigail Boice says:

            Nowhere in the Bible does it say that women are not equal to men.

          • Shanae B says:

            Most atheists don’t authenticly live that out since it take more faith to believe God doesn’t exist then to believe He does. Also a true atheist wouldn’t feel compelled to bother to comment let alone read blogs like this. Why do you need to attack something that you believe is completely erelvent? It doesn’t apply to you anyway.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            ah a lie, the claim that it takes more faith to believe that an invisible sky daddy is watching and judging me is blatantly false, you make the claim, you require the faith, that which is given as an answer without proof can be ignored without proof against it.

          • Shanae B says:

            No one is judging you. I’m just calling you out. Since being an atheist you don’t really have a good enough reason to be making comments like you do on here since you don’t believe any of it.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            i have reason enough because i feel like it, for A, and for B because girls defined is lying to their base and promoting negative ideals like being anti gay

          • Shanae B says:

            GD isn’t lying about anything and they don’t promote anti gay. You just feel like they are.

          • Livingproof says:

            Your trying to promote your negative ideals on them and us! Please just refrain from commenting on stuff that you obviously don’t want or have any part in!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            when you say abortion is murder your imposing your morality on others, Im not imposing my ideals, im saying that this article is factually wrong, my belief in no god isn’t an ideal, its a lack of a belief

          • Livingproof says:

            When you impose evolution and the big bang theory it’s imposing your ideals on others!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            when i say science should be taught in the science class and not your unfounded B.S. im saying that we shouldn’t lie to children, so i guess ya got me there

          • Livingproof says:

            But that’s also imposing that children should have to listen to your religion and nobody else’s.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            IT’S NOT A RELIGION, no matter what you say or think you cant change the FACT that science isn’t a religion

          • Livingproof says:

            You believe that something evolved! That’s a huge part of religion that’s having faith in something! That’s a religion!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            No, no its not, there is no evolution in religion, it is science, science is the study of the natural world, its not that hard your just being intentionally obtuse.

          • Livingproof says:

            You have faith in your science evolution theory, that it’s right that is a religion! And before you continue throwing out hateful words show me who’s being the bigger more mature person here? Have I called you a name yet or thrown rude comments to you?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            that last point is irrelevant because you seem to be content to insult my intelligence, Faith is something believed without proof. proof is something that Evolution has an enormity of, something a religion literally can not have because it supposes that things exist without proof.

          • Livingproof says:

            You still haven’t proved to any body that evolution or the big bang theory is real! You have faith that evolution is real or else you wouldn’t agree with it therefore it is a Religion!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            LISTEN TO THE WORDS IM TYPING, GO AND LOOK UP THE ACTUAL FACTS, STOP SAYING THAT SCIENCE IS RELIGION BECAUSE THATS NO HOW SCIENCE WORKS. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT A RELIGION IS.

          • Livingproof says:

            You don’t have proof or facts! It is how evolution works! You have to have faith and believe in it obviously! Because you don’t have solid proof! Therefore it’s a religion.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            The reason you don’t see proof is because your willfully ignorant

          • Livingproof says:

            You haven’t given any proof! You keep saying stuff but you fail to give me proof!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            I have given you proof, i have given you sources, you refuse to accept reality in favor of your make believe

          • Livingproof says:

            Wow wow wow…… nope no proof was given all you want me to do is go look up stuff! You haven’t given proof you’ve continued to skip comments because you can’t answer them and you’ve continued calling names! Mature people are easier to talk to. How old are you?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            i have given you proof, i haven’t skipped any questions or claims, you’ve continued to insult the intelligence of every one who knows better, and worst of all you wont even fact check anything because your faith is so weak that reality can shatter it like glass.

          • Livingproof says:

            Wow really? You haven’t given me proof! You have skipped questions and comments. My faith is not weak my God is big! I’ve tried you keep saying I’m not open to your ideals but you are the one who can’t even prove that one thing in the bible is false! You keep proving your not mature enough to hold a conversation without name calling or saying something rude. Again I ask you is sin real to you or do you really believe that all the bad stuff that’s happened in this world is because if mentally ill people?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            I have given proof and shall re give it, the finches of the Galapagos have beaks depending on which island their on, depending on the food available. I have proven parts of the bible wrong (Genisis 30 verse 39) of which you ignored, refusing to look at any proof. again i will say this, sin is not a real thing and “Bad stuff” happens because of a culmination of people with different belief systems, thinking that they are in the right, and the mentally ill who cant help it. that combined with natural events like tornadoes and earth-quakes make “bad stuff” happen.

          • Livingproof says:

            You told me to look up Genesis 30:39 when I asked if you are pointing to Jacob and his father-in-law deal you never said anything back except calling me ignorant, then earlier when I asked you the same question about sin you ignored me and never answered so you haven’t said anything again this would be you first time saying anything about sin! So back to my question… so you believe that every nasty thought you’ve had is because of your religion and mental health so therefore you have an excuse for it? You also believe all sicknesses people get are from their religious back ground? What about all of the women who have abortions do you believe it’s because of their religious back ground and mental health issues that the go and kill millions of babies and think it’s ok? Tell me are you a human or a clump of cells?

          • Livingproof says:

            Oh and the evolving finches is a joke, all he did is stumble upon them, and they had different sized beaks, that’s what a deformedy looks like!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            sorry for you but this does affect me, do you think people don’t proselytize to me all the time, do you think that laws biased on christian theology don’t affect me, i live in the US, I am a politician, also i’m very bored. also also your no true Scotsman argument is as the president would say “SAD” you don’t get to tell anyone what a “true atheist” is.

          • Shanae B says:

            This has nothing to do with politics. You have horrific politics, and if you were a real politician you shouldn’t have any time to muck around on this or any other site.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            This has a lot to do with politics because it’s teaching those who believe in it regressive ideology. Also do you think politicians don’t have free time, if so your mistaken.

          • Livingproof says:

            This is ridiculous how come your not doing something more important then trying to tear others down with your words?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            wanna know why im doing this, its so that people will think for themselves and not just listen and believe any gobbledygook they hear just because its religious

          • Livingproof says:

            Your not needed when it comes to others believing what they do or don’t! Evolution is a religion and people need to think for THEMSELVES on that too!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            evolution does not ask or answer any questions about god, it doesnt make claims about morality and isnt worshiped, your claim that evolution is a “religion” is a lie spewed from the ignorant. your whole religion isnt necessary in any way, yet here we are, you have the freedom to lie to yourself, and I have the right to call you out on it, i also have the right to point out the lies that Girls defined spews. I dont think you realize that i have no ulterior motive in this. I just want people to think for themselves, even though the entire idea of self is blatantly anti religion in general.

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m sorry but evolution is a religion! You have to believe that we all just evolved! Just like in Christianity we believe there is a God! To make something a religion you have to believe in something! You believe that we all just evolved you believe the big bang theory you believe there isn’t a God, therefore that’s your religion!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            A lack of belief is not a belief, you make the claim and have no proof, science makes a claim and after hundreds of years of collecting data about it makes it a scientific theory, if a single piece of evidence disproved evolution it would be immediately altered to fit reality or disposed of in favor of a more accurate theory. this is how the theory gravity and the theory of thermodynamics came to be.

          • Livingproof says:

            No y’all still have no proof! Show me something evolving show me a speck can explode and create an earth and living things! Where is your proof? Altered! That’s all evolutionists do they take a bone from a bird and put it with another animals bone and say there proof but it’s all a bunch of altered stuff thrown together! We don’t have to alter anything in Christianity! Look around please truly tell me are you really nothing? Are you a mistake?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            the stupidity of your statement is so mind boggling and stupid that the only thing that I can do is recommend that you look at Aron Ra’s you-tube page and listen to the videos he has on the subject and on the subject of creationism. if you pay attention and dont ignore everything he says then you will understand how evolution works, the big bang, where most of creationist arguments come from and how they have all been debunked. to quote a movie “At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered an answer Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.” ( billy Madison 1995)

          • Livingproof says:

            Again you replie with a rude comment because you can’t answer my question yourself! Come on, show me yourself, point something out!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            i cant force a horse to drink water, nor can i force you to do something for yourself, either look it up or shut up because you clearly wont accept anything i say. but for arguments sake and example is literally every living thing on earth, fossils, and the one that Darwin discovered which was the varying breeds of finches in the Galapagos islands ( at least i think it was fiches). as for the reason of my “Rudeness” its because every other post you make in reply seems to be crafted solely to ignore reality and therin insult the intelligence of anyone who knows better

          • Livingproof says:

            Seriously everything on earth you can’t prove anything like that! Let me ask you is sin real or do you really believe all these problems we have in this world is from mental ill people? Then you obviously like to jump to conclusions on that because that’s not what I’m doing, you keep on skipping over comments and questions.

          • Shanae B says:

            You seem to be a regressive persoon and don’t seem to know anything about ideology.

          • Livingproof says:

            How would you know what the president would say?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            its called a joke, also that little quote is something that he has done multiple times

          • Livingproof says:

            Your jokes don’t faze or bother us… plus your using it in the wrong argument.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            it doesnt matter, your pecking seeds because the heart of my argument is true.

          • Livingproof says:

            Oh no! Seriously that’s saying that your right we’re wrong which is promoting your ideals!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            My point stands

          • Livingproof says:

            In your mind and religious it does but not in mine.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Im right because reality backs me up because think rationally, i do not believe without evidence and do not belong to any religion, you live in a land of make believe, where baseless hypothesis are fact, theories are lies, and facts are false.

          • Livingproof says:

            Reality? Show me your evidence! Seriously? Evolution is a religion! Show me where anything and everything in the bible is wrong or false?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            If i showed you everything that was wrong in the bible would you actually concead and do research on the topic of evolution, using sources for scientific journals and vieos from people who have degrees in the relative categories. one such example is genisis 30-39

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m sorry chapter 30 verse 39 or chapters 30 thourgh 39?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            just type in 30:39 genisis

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m not looking this up on the internet. If your taking about Jacob and his deal with his father-in-law your giving me no proof….

          • Collin Paylor says:

            The fact that you wont look up proof for anything is proof in it self that you just want to believe your lies until you die, if you considered others ideas youd be a more well rounded person and youd understand how the world works. essentially what you’ve done is say ” the tide goes in the tide goes out, you cant explain that ” ( bill o’rielly) the ignorance that you exude is on that level.

          • Livingproof says:

            I don’t use the internet! You tell me you have proof but you’ve failed to give it!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            your using the internet now, your idiocy knows no bounds, you clearly dont want to understand the world around you

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m saying I don’t use Google. I only use my phone for certain things obviously I don’t use it to waist away the time looking up silly unprovable things.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            and yet your here, you believe in god, and dont believe in science

          • Livingproof says:

            I never said I don’t believe in any science, there is Some science out there that can be PROVEN! Yes I believe in a Creator who’s done more for me then a speck ever can.

        • nazra7 says:

          @Collin Paylor (Caps for emphasis, I in no way mean this to be read with a negative tone)

          Genesis 2:18 is repeating exactly what the author of this article wrote here, a God loving woman makes up for what her God loving husband (not father) lacks to make one fully whole cohesive body in marriage. That’s why Eve was called Adam’s “helper”, not because she was meant to be his toy. I’m not sure how one can get “object” out of the word “helper” either, that doesn’t make any sense to me. A father helps the mother raise the children by providing for the family while the mother helps keep the home and family orderly.

          The men don’t make “decisions” on the womens’ behalf in Christianity, the women want us to lead and come up with plans but not force them into doing anything they feel uncomfortable with, and trust me with a modest girl there’s a lot she’s uncomfortable doing. So its more like we make suggestions, and the wife/girlfriend gets to say ok or no. If she says no, then the man is supposed to come up with another idea which we usually have a list in our heads by then anyway. These don’t have to be followed in this exact manner in Christianity, but this is generally how most God loving Christian men and women want it to be anyway. Its not simply a societal construct, society facilitated it but its also due to the biology most men and women have as well that makes them predisposed to doing well in that sort of life style.

          In other words, a Christian marriage is about mutually respectful team work just like what was written here.

          As for Timothy 2:11, 3 things… 1. we see Timothy’s ‘opinion’ (not a commandment from God) on how women should worship in the church, notice he says “I” don’t permit women to… x… not “God does not permit women to”…. This was strictly speaking only to how men and women should worship in church, not how to exercise their marriage… IN FACT this is exactly where the different roles for Catholic Priests and Nuns come from, this very chapter! And neither Priests nor Nuns get married, nor do they intermingle much at all, its not allowed by the Papacy. So unless you’re talking about the path of Celibacy in Catholicism, this chapter is not necessarily for you.

          2. Timothy is actually incorrect about Eve being the only one who was deceived in the Garden of Eden. Adam was too, in fact in the KJV (which, by the way, is the most accurate english translation so throw out the NIV and NLT), the fruit of knowledge of good and evil didn’t take effect when Eve first ate the fruit, it wasn’t until Adam ate it too did it affect them both at the same exact time, again because they were one whole person together.

          And 3. Not many people know this but contrary to what almost every person has heard today, it was ONLY ADAM who got exiled from the Garden of Eden, and Eve was actually allowed to STAY inside the Garden with God where its safer for her! Don’t believe me?

          Genesis 3:22 (KJV): “And the Lord God said, Behold, -*THE MAN*- is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, -*LEST HE*- put forth -*HIS HAND*-, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the Lord God -*SENT HIM*- FORTH FROM THE GARDEN OF EDEN, to till the ground from whence -*HE WAS TAKEN*-. SO HE DROVE OUT -*THE MAN*-…”

          It can’t get any clearer than that. Well, actually it can since the confusion comes from the next chapter, because its traditionally believed CAIN was exiled from the Garden of Eden as well. But then, how can Cain be banished from Eden when never setting foot in it? So, if that’s true, then it had to have happened before Adam’s exile. The confusion has happened because traditional thinking is the story of Adam and Eve, and their children, was, in the Bible, told in CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, but this is false due to the fact that… its only AFTER finishing telling us about multiple generations of Cain’s family, does the Bible THEN continue Adam and Eve’s story by going back to the time when Eve was giving birth to her next Child, Seth, and their other children followed. And chances are, it was NOT decades or generations of years before Adam and Eve continued to have children after Eve’s first pregnancy with Cain and Abel. So its quite clear the Bible does not tell their story in Chronological order at all, and it doesn’t have to since many stories are written with a non-linear time frame on purpose.

          So again, the idea that both Adam AND Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden is unbiblical according to the KJV which is universally regarded as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew and Greek Bibles, despite almost everyone having this idea drilled into their heads since childhood as 100% Biblically authentic, its quite clear Eve was NOT banished from the Garden of Eden… only Adam was…

          So why am I bringing this up? It shows a point in which how women are treated in Judeo-Christianity…
          Why would God not banish them both?

          Probably because, just like in traditional Judeo-Christian families and societies, believe it or not, girls, ladies, and women are actually treated as far less morally culpable for their wrong doings and crimes than men are (if they commit any crimes or societal infractions like upsetting a police officer)… And its for the exact same reason that children are… It to protect them from the horrors of jail and prison.

          Despite what liberalism would want you to believe, the fact is Judaism and Christianity have always been very CHIVALROUS like that with regard to our women and children, NOT CHAUVINISTIC (unlike Islam and most of the ancient Pagan world unfortunately). Another example is when there is an emergency, such as a sinking ship, women and children are given life boats first in Christian Conservative America, but liberalism killed that way of viewing women and children off too. So unless you can argue that Christianity treats children like objects/property, with men having free rights to use and abuse them…. then its actually quite fallacious to say Christianity treats girls/ladies/women/wives/ect like this.

          Women are supposed to get the best of both worlds as far as adulthood and childhood is concerned in Christianity. And that’s the way good Christian men like it.

          These are the first religions in the world to think more highly of women, in fact, giving them a special… oh, what’s the word you liberal anti-feminists use? …Oh that’s right, a special female PRIVILEGE which finds women less morally culpable for wrong doings and crimes. Its a trade-off for men and women in Judeo-Christianity. Women get off easier and are more protected in exchange for having less responsibilities and helping to raise the family… While the man works everyday, hunting, or going to work in physical/mental labor on a strict schedule with higher risk factors, higher responsibility, higher levels of stress… because he provides for the family. And on top of that, if he messes up, he gets a much heftier punishment than the lady does. The ladies get it a bit easier in life, in exchange for being a bit more submissive (but willingly submissive, not forced).

          And guess what? That’s the way most men AND women generally want it to be anyway, but in no way is what either of them do any less important than what the other does for the overall function of a family and a marriage. Also, interestingly enough the role actually switches on men and women when they take the Celibate Lifestyle, where Nuns don’t stay indoors at the church like the usually Priest does, but instead goes out into the community and does charity work.

          Since liberalism introduced anti-feminism (not feminism, you can’t be against femininity and call yourself a feminist), the structure of families and marriages has only further deteriorated. So when you look at everything, and not just little pieces of the picture here and there without connecting the dots, the way God designed men and women to live and work together, comparing families since the start of America in the late 1700s ALL the way up to 1970, its clear God’s way of doing things is the best way, and liberalisms’ attempt to ‘enlighten’ God on how to do things better has only destroyed what used to be a guaranteed part of life for everyone, now marriage is actually at risk for becoming an endangered way of life in Liberal America.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            If you look at how the communities treat their women before Christianity and after Christianity you’ll notice how women were systematically reduced to second class citizens, also the kjb has been shown to have the most mistranslations of any of the bibles and the any of the popular bibles are just copy’s of copy’s of a book that was verbally handed down before being written down in a recently revived language, all the while transforming to to preferences and biased of the writers and story tellers. Also also 1700 America was very repressive towards women and minorities so you shot yourself in the foot there, and *liberal america* doesn’t exist, America is one of the most conservative modern countries. Another thing, if you can look up and see everything that the Bible has to say about women and say that it is positive and good for women’s general well being and happiness and freedom, then you my friend have some rose colored sun glasses that are so tinted that they’d protect you from a flashbang grenade, it’s pitiful how misinformed you are by the cultural brainwashing that you’ve been through
            Not to mention how you could literally treat ones daughter as livestock, selling her hand in marriage for 100 shickles or 50 shickles if it’s to her rapist

        • Livingproof says:

          I’m sorry but that’s really silly. Please think about this first! Your saying women are only here to be a “personal object for their fathers/hisbands? That’s not true! We (women) and (men) are all equally made to glorify God! Non is more then the other! Men have their roles (which in this world mean nothing so most don’t take this seriously ) and women have their roles (which again in this world means nothing so most don’t take it seriously) women have been given beautiful, amazing, awesome jobs, by the one who created them! We give birth to HIS creation! We get to take care of his children! We get to glorify him in our actions! Words! And everything else! Men are supposed to represent Christ and us (women) his bride! What is more honoring then that! I love him for making me a woman! Ever women out there should be thankful to be a who they are! God is good always! I want you to know that your loved and needed the way God has made you!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Hi there, I’ve got something to blow your mind, god created nothing, the Bible is a lie full of contradiction and only has moral value in a modern sense because of the morality people superimpose upon it

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m sorry but that didn’t blow my mind at all because that’s completely false!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            OK then, prove it with undeniable scientific proof, then I’ll consider it

        • HIS says:

          11 days ago
          “You have probably heard this joke: God created man and said, “I can do better than that,” and He created woman. gender balance

          While you might laugh, I hope you see that this joke isn’t true. God did exactly what He intended to do—He created male and female, and He declared the idea of two genders to be very good.

          You have probably heard another untruth: Equality means females must do the same thing as males.

          Two things do not have to be the same to be equal. Red and green are equally colors, but they are different.

          God created male and female, and He created them equally in His image. However He gave them different functions in His kingdom. These functions are equally valuable.

          Does this sound familiar?

          The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are equal.
          Each person of the Trinity has a different function in accomplishing our redemption.
          These different functions have the same purpose—to praise the Triune God’s glorious grace.
          There is equality in being, difference in function, and unity in purpose.
          The same is true for us because we were created in the likeness of the Triune God.

          Men and women are equal because we are both created in God’s image.
          We were designed for different functions.
          We were created for the same purpose: God’s glory.
          There is equality in being, difference in function, and unity in purpose.
          It’s nonsense to say that God the Father must die on the cross in order to be as important as the Son, and it is nonsense to say that women must do the same things as men in order to be as important.

          Men and women are different, but our differences are not meant to divide us—and they won’t if we have the same purpose. The problem is when our purpose is to live for our own glory rather than God’s glory.

          God’s plan is for men and women to live in harmony and to praise Him together. We are not to compete and criticize. We are to value our differences. We are to encourage and help each other glorify God.”

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Man kinds “purpose” is to mate and have children, there is no god and any value assigned to your life was assigned to it by you and those around you. The fact that you cling so desperately to your religion even though it is blatently against your morals is just your base, animalistic pattern seeking brain trying to put everything away into Nice compartmentalized boxes regardless of whether it’s accurate and true or not.

          • Livingproof says:

            Can I ask what God ever did to you to make you so against him? And if that’s mankind’s purpose then how come everyone is killing their children? We are not animals.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            I think your confusing me with a masotheist, someone who believes in god but hates him. I am an atheist, someone who doesn’t believe in a god. Also people aren’t just going out and slaughtering children in mass, the few child killers in the world usually have mental health issues. So your piss poor argument on the purpose of mankind can’t even get out of the door.

          • Livingproof says:

            We can’t blame mental health issues on why people kill children and others! If you do then your saying all the women in the world who have abortions have mental health issues! And that’s really wrong! Murder is wrong and it’s not justified by health issues! Sin in you can cause you to murder someone!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Abortion isn’t murder, get over your self importance

          • Livingproof says:

            My self importance?! Seriously abortion is murder! It’s wrong and evil!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Yes your clearly think your opinion on the subject is enough to force millions of people to not have a free choice in the matter, abortion isn’t murder it’s not wrong or evil.

          • Livingproof says:

            I don’t think i can force anybody to not have their own free choice! Abortion is killing another human! At 16 weeks my little sister was already the size of my hand and had a perfect body!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Are aware why row v. Wade is so important to a woman’s free choice. Cause it’s pretty important

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m very aware that it was one of the worst mistakes this country’s made!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            So you do support forcing your ideals on everyone else, forcing them against their will to have children that they don’t want or can’t raise. Your contradictions are dizzying

          • Livingproof says:

            Adoption is the option when you can’t raise or don’t want theirs lots of Women out there who really want a child!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            And guess what, the large amount of orphanages are already overfilled and underfunded with allow adoption rate, creating kids who are more disposed to crime because of the environment that they grew up in. Not to mention that even just the act of giving birth is a very expensive and painful thing to go through and chances are when some finds out their pregnant and want an abortion they don’t wait until its the third trimester, they get an abortion asap. Not to mention that minors shouldn’t be forced to have kids to begin with especially in rape cases.

          • Livingproof says:

            If you don’t want your baby maybe you shouldn’t be doing something out of your marriage bed, and if you don’t want to get pregnant then maybe marriage isn’t your thing…if it’s a rape case adoption is way more human then killing your baby! I know more then 4 women who are adopting or who have adopted! Nobody is forced unless their raped. Again we can’t blame somebody’s circumstances on their actions! Sin is real and you could have perfect parents and still commit a crime!

          • Livingproof says:

            It doesn’t matter what I say to you though you always have something to say back and a lot of the time it comes back rudely. I’m sorry if that’s how I’ve sounded!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Your the one trying to force women who want an abortion out of an abortion, and you can’t tell a pregnant 10 year old [it’s happened] that they have to carry the rape baby, it’s not humain and above all its non of your business. It’s not murder, it’s not infanticide, it’s an abortion. Learn to deal with the real worldal and not push your ideals on others when it comes to their private business. Also marriage, non of your business just let people be about it, it doesn’t affect you, it might affect some people you know but guess what, if someone doesn’t want an abortion they won’t get an abortion, that’s just how it works.

          • Livingproof says:

            If that’s the case then it’s not your business to tell Girl defined their wrong! Also please stop saying I’m pushing my ideals on others because I’m not, I’m reminding them there is another option!

          • Livingproof says:

            And may I ask what you think my morals are?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Your morals are what ever you think they are, they are wholly dependent on the person who holds them and are entirely subjective

          • Livingproof says:

            Then how can you say “The fact that you cling so desperately to your religion even though it is blatently against your morals is just your base,” how is my religion blatantly against my own morals? I’m sorry but I’m obviously wasting my time trying to help you see the truth, I wish you would understand that God is real! There is no other way to prove life!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Believe it or not the Bible answers nothing, but I can almost guarantee that you are pro mixed fabric, anti slavery, those two things alone mean that you disagree with the Bible. Also also evolution, the big Bang, those two things explain how life came to be, research would tell you as much.

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m sorry research! The big bang theory! Evolution! That’s all silly nonsense! People came up with that because they wanted to get away with being sinful! So they came up with something that made them think it was all ok.

          • Collin Paylor says:

            Sciemce has proof for all the claims that I made about science, you have no such thing and just repeat whatever your religious leaders tell you so that you don’t have any introspection or actually try to look up the facts of the matter.

          • Livingproof says:

            You can’t believe everything the internet tells you!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            You clearly do, but replace the internet with your church and girls defined.

          • Livingproof says:

            No I don’t… I also don’t replace it with anything girl defined or my church says! Lol you probably have millions of resources you get your facts on, me I only get them one place!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            So what your conseeding is that my information is up to date, with various sources confirming my viewpoint and the ones that prove otherwise shape my viewpoint so that my opinion on things is always going to be more accurate on reality than your opinion based off of a single source with numerous factual errors and moral issues that can’t even agree with itself on many occasions and above all you clearly havn’t read cover to cover. Nice job shooting yourself in the foot would you like some ice for that.

          • Livingproof says:

            You still never answered my question….
            Then how can you say “The fact that you cling so desperately to your religion even though it is blatently against your morals is just your base,” how is my religion blatantly against my own morals?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            As I said, your probably anti slavery and wear cloths of mixed fabrics, you probably don’t think that it’s moral to wear such blasphemous apparel therin your morals are against the Bibles morals

          • Livingproof says:

            Really? Hmmm…. I don’t see any where in the bible telling us to wear immodest clothes?

          • Collin Paylor says:

            No, a MIX OF FABRICS, not immodest clothing, a mix of cloth made of cotton and sheep hair, or hemp and cotton, stop being so obtuse about it it’s getting pathetic

          • Livingproof says:

            I’m done! If your going to be abusive with your words then I’m done! It’s pointless to argue with someone who is rude to you!

          • Collin Paylor says:

            I have answered your question multiple times unless your pro slavery anted anti mixed faberics, you can deny my answer all you want but that’ll would just prove your own refusal to accept basic facts, so I guess my question to you is, Are you pro slavery and anti mixes fabrics, are you anti woman teacher too

  6. Nola says:

    I am with you with everything expect for some of the stuff about the home. I agree that we as Christian women should take care of the home, in order to bless our families and everyone who comes into it. However, NOWHERE in the Bible does it say that taking care of the home is solely a woman’s job. Isn’t a desire to bless your family and the people who come into your home a Godly one, that both men and women should have? Taking care of your home isn’t just a womans job, and I challenge you to tell me where in the Bible it says that it is.

    • V says:

      Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, WORKING AT HOME, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.
      Titus 2:3‭-‬5 ESV

      Also I don’t believe GD is saying that men can’t help out like take out the trash help with dishes once in awhile etc.. I respect a lot of men who do this stuff it’s kind and gentlemanly for them to do so espessialy heaving a huge smelly trash bag out.. but ultimately it’s the woman’s job to be the primary caretaker of the home in ways like making meals sweeping and cleaning rooms etc men can help with this stuff and some (repeat some) men are amazing cooks but women are supposed to be willing to serve and be ready for their hubbys to come home and have a meal ready for them.
      This does not mean that you can’t do some work outside of cleaning taking care of your house for example (music lessons making things, maybe teaching a sewing art class, or cooking class) those are all very good things that can make you a good sum of money but still these things can become a problem just like a man’s job can if he’s neglecting the family and leadership in his home, we must still be on top of our own duties to claim more, it wouldn’t be right for a husband to take a job and then give a mechanics class when his official job is falling behind, sane for the woman.
      Men should be willing to help out at home and not just come home and throw themselves down for a game etc… they do have responsibilities but it is not their full job to take care of the home cook and clean.

      Hope this helped!


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